@Wyn1600 @MarkosJanes That’s not ‘our little diagram’ it’s from THINK. Try it. Post navigation The driver of this van didn’t call us after breaking down on the A3 this evening…they probably didn’t want us to come along and find out they had no insurance. Thankfully a member of the public let us know. The driver was issued with a £300 fine and 6 points. @Wyn1600 @MarkosJanes Does that compute better for you?