@mfrk89 How the hell wousl you know? You’ve never seen or touched them?!? You’re spouting nonsense now. Post navigation #M25 anti-clockwise within J13. 3 lanes (of 4) closed due to a collision involving several vehicles. Traffic currently passing in the right hand lane. Be aware of debris and building congestion on approach. Allow extra time for your journey if heading that way. @DrGrumpy Hundreds. I’ll try and get you the stats tomorrow.